Clone Chronicles: An SB Nation Community

Navigation: Jump to content areas:


Pro Quality. Fan Perspective.
Login-facebook
New Blog: Along The Olentangy for Ohio State Fans!

Bates Transfer Thoughts

The Bates transfer has created headlines and mass reaction from Cyclone fans over the last day.  Myself, I'm not necessarily angry or overly bothered by it.  It's not as though the possibility of Bates transferring has never been broached by people following the team.  I am mostly confused by it and bothered by two things.

The two things that bother me are:

  • The timing - I don't feel like Bates necessarily owes ISU or the fans anything.  But I do believe he owes his teammates the respect of finishing the year.  He will obviously have friends on the team and he has actively been involving in hosting recruits.  Obviously he didn't take that responsibility seriously.
  • Not telling the coaching staff himself.  I understand that it would be hard to approach somebody like Chizik and tell him you're quitting the team.  However to have your dad call Pollard and have Pollard relay the message to the staff... I'm sorry there is no other way to describe that than gutless.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not intending to rip the kid.  I think there is more at work here than just Bates making a decision as his father was heavily involved.  Those two things irk me but don't necessarily impact Cyclone football other than emotionally and I hope the rest of the team is emotionally mature enough to handle him cutting out. 

The thing I really don't understand is the reasoning behind leaving now.  For one it does not reflect well on him at his future stop.  He also cannot practice the rest of the season and even if he were a backup I would think time spent on the field would help him get better as opposed to time spent otherwise.

Something else bothering Cyclone fans is the rumors that he is looking at Nebraska.  I don't doubt that he is, but let him go there if he wants to.  I think he'll find that sitting to play one year would probably have been a tremendous waste of his talent and I highly doubt Nebraska doesn't have at least one other quality quarterback coming in or on the roster.  Nothing is going to be given to him even if he's from Omaha.

Honestly best of luck to Phil.  I don't think he's a bad kid, he helped ISU many ways off the field, and he conducted himself with class on and off the field until this moment.  Do I think he made a mistake leaving in the middle of the year?  Yes, but he's confident enough I doubt it will effect him.  And since he was obviously beaten out by Arnaud on the field... I don't think it will effect Iowa State football as much as some believe either.

0 recs  |  Comment 5 comments |

Story-email Email Printer Print

Comments

Display:

Possible pickup

Initially when I first read the story I thought well that sucks for both groups. Sucks for Bates since he got beat out by a younger player and now feels a transfer is in order to save face and sucks for ISU since now they don’t really have a backup at QB. Then I remembered the guy was from Omaha and that we have two talented yet inexperienced QBs next year and Bates might help us out in that regard since…well, he actually played some Big 12 games before.

However, if he got beat out by Arnaud(sp?) what would his chances be beating out Patrick Witt or Zach Lee. Plus, Bates is a senior right? Not really sure we want another one year Senior QB running the offense when development will have to occur at some point down the line.

by Doc1028 on Oct 10, 2008 6:16 PM CDT reply actions  

he's a true sophomore

…I believe he’d have to sit out two years if he transferred in conference?

by CrossCyed on Oct 10, 2008 7:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

Shows what I know about ISU football

And eligibility rules of college football since I meant he WILL be a senior not a senior now…kinda hard to play for a new team when you already graduated. (insert N stands for Nowledge joke here)

And agreed on the sit two years deal since I read that today in the Omaha World Herald. Probably for his benefit, if he wants to play now that is, he should be to go to a school outside of the conference to play in a year rather than sit two then play one year at NU. Plus, we need to develop our QBs for the future.

by Doc1028 on Oct 13, 2008 12:14 AM CDT up reply actions  

I don't think he sits two

I think he sits one, loses that year of eligibility, and would be a senior in 2010.

by BryceC on Oct 11, 2008 7:30 AM CDT reply actions  

Timing is weird

I really don’t understand the timing, either. This year already counts as a year of eligibility, right? Why not finish out the season and make full use of the eligibility?

The transfer itself doesn’t bother me. I changed my mind about a lot of things at this age, so I have difficulty holding this kids to a higher standard without being a hypocrite.

by kosmo99 on Oct 15, 2008 1:15 PM CDT reply actions  

Comments For This Post Are Closed


User Tools

Welcome to Clone Chronicles, where we discuss all things Iowa State, and try to have some fun along the way.
Start posting about the Cyclones »

Join SB Nation and dive into communities focused on all your favorite teams.

Connect_with_facebook

FanPosts

Community blog posts and discussion.

Recent FanPosts

Cyhawk1s_small
In Defense of Farmageddon
Cyhawk1s_small
Remember The Eustachy Era In Glorious Web-Embedded Video Form
Farmer_small
Respect

+ New FanPost All FanPosts >

SBNation.com Recent Stories

Virginia Tech quarterback Tyrod Taylor celebrates with the crowd in the final moments of the fourth quarter of an NCAA football game against Tennessee Sunday, Dec. 13, 2009 in Atlanta.  (AP Photo/John Bazemore)

Week 1 College Football Buffet: Previewing Every Game So You Know Which To Consume

Utah kicker Joe Phillips (39) kicks the winning field goal during overtime of an NCAA college football game against Pittsburgh on Thursday, Sept. 2, 2010 in Salt Lake City. Utah upset No. 15 Pittsburgh 27-24. (AP Photo/Steve C. Wilson)

Utah Upsets No. 15 Pittsburgh In Opening Night Overtime Thriller, 27-24

HONOLULU - SEPTEMBER 2:  Ronald Johnson #83 of the University of Southern California Trojans runs in for a touchdown against Corey Nielsen #8 of the University of Hawaii Warriors during first half action at Aloha Stadium September 2 2010 in Honolulu Hawaii. (Photo by Kent Nishimura/Getty Images) +2 updates

Lane Kiffin Is Victorious In Debut, No. 14 USC Wins In A Shootout At Hawaii, 49-36

More from SBNation.com >


Managers

Clonechronicles_small Mark Kieffer

Editors

Iowa-state-logo_small CrossCyed

Authors

059_59_small BryceC

Stilogo_small Paul Conrad