Week 12: Another Way To Look At Potential Bowl Destinations For Iowa State
This came to mind when I was trying to explain to a non-ISU fan the bowl possibilities, and why the K-State vs. Nebraska game matters almost as much as the Iowa State game. I will prefix this by saying this is my own opinion, but something to at least think about.
Here are the three main scenarios, along with how I think the selection process will go:
Scenario #1: Only Texas makes the BCS
BCS: Texas
Cotton Bowl: Oklahoma State
Holiday Bowl: Oklahoma
Alamo Bowl: Nebraska
Sun Bowl: Texas Tech
| K-State W | K-State L | |
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ISU W |
Insight Bowl: K-State Independence Bowl: ISU Texas Bowl: Missouri New Mexico/GMAC/Boise/Little Caesars: Texas A&M |
Insight Bowl: ISU Independence Bowl: Missouri Texas Bowl: Texas A&M |
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ISU L |
Insight Bowl: K-State Independence Bowl: Missouri Texas Bowl: Texas A&M New Mexico/GMAC/Boise/Little Caesars: ISU |
Insight Bowl: Missouri Independence Bowl: ISU Texas Bowl: Texas A&M |
On the next page, I'll get into the other scenarios
Scenario #2: Two Big 12 BCS Teams - Oklahoma State
BCS: Texas, Oklahoma State
Cotton: Nebraska
Holiday: Oklahoma
Alamo: Texas Tech
| K-State W | K-State L | |
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ISU W |
Sun Bowl: K-State Insight Bowl:Texas A&M Independence Bowl: ISU Texas Bowl: Missouri |
Sun Bowl: Texas A&M Insight Bowl: ISU Independence Bowl: Missouri Texas Bowl: Open |
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ISU L |
Sun Bowl: K-State Insight Bowl: Missouri Independence Bowl: ISU Texas Bowl: Texas A&M |
Sun Bowl: Texas A&M Insight Bowl: Missouri Independence Bowl: ISU Texas Bowl: Texas A&M |
Scenario #3: Two BCS Teams - Big 12 North Winner
Fiesta: Big 12 Winner
BCS At Large: Texas
Cotton: Oklahoma State
Holiday Bowl: Oklahoma
| K-State W | K-State L | |
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ISU W |
Fiesta Bowl: K-State Alamo Bowl: Nebraska Sun Bowl: Texas Tech Insight Bowl: ISU Independence Bowl: Missouri Texas Bowl: Texas A&M |
Fiesta Bowl: Nebraska Alamo Bowl: Texas Tech Sun Bowl: ISU Insight Bowl:Texas A&M Independence Bowl: Missouri Texas Bowl: Open |
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ISU L |
Fiesta Bowl: K-State Alamo Bowl: Nebraska Sun Bowl: Texas Tech Insight Bowl: Missouri Independence Bowl: ISU Texas Bowl: Texas A&M |
Fiesta Bowl: Nebraska Alamo Bowl: Texas Tech Sun Bowl: Texas A&M Insight Bowl: Missouri Independence Bowl: ISU Texas Bowl: Open |
Summary Of ISU Bowl Bids
Totals
Sun Bowl: 1/12 scenarios
Insight Bowl: 3/12 scenarios
Independence Bowl: 7/12 scenarios
Non Big 12 Bowl: 1/12 scenarios
If ISU Wins:
Sun Bowl:1/6 scenarios
Insight Bowl: 3/6 scenarios
Independence Bowl: 2/6 scenarios
If ISU Loses:
Independence Bowl: 5/6 scenarios
Non-Big 12 Bowl: 1/6 scenarios
Final Thoughts
Remember, this is just my own thoughts. In short, if ISU wins they have a good shot at making the Insight Bowl in Tempe, AZ. If they lose, it looks like they would likely end up in Shreveport. Overall, Shreveport looks like the most likely destination. I know people don't like Shreveport, but I'll take any bowl, and I will be going. There are scenarios where a bowl could take either ISU or A&M. To me, I think it matters where it is: if it's in Texas (Sun or Texas Bowl), then I think A&M is the better draw and those bowls would invite.
Regardless of what happens to ISU, it helps them to have Nebraska beat K-State, so that will be a game to follow that evening (6:45pm, ESPN).
So what are your thoughts? Where you would like see ISU end up, and what do you think is realistic? Does laying this out in a table, help sort things out better?
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Doesn't the Big 12
Have a rule that a division champ can fall no further than the Alamo Bowl? I’m pretty sure that they do. If K-State wins, you can pencil them in to San Antonio.
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I don't think so
In 2005, Colorado won the Big 12 North, but played in the Champs Sports Bowl, while Nebraska played in the Alamo bowl.
I forget what the pecking order was, but I think Champs Sports was towards the bottom of the Big 12. In 2004, Syracuse played in it because there were not enough Bowl Eligible Big 12 teams. From looking at the 2004 Standings, there were 7 Bowl Eligible Big 12 teams, with 2 going to the BCS, so the Champs Sports had to be in the 6th range or greater.
Either way, there is presidence for a division winner to go lower than the Alamo Bowl, and there is presidence for Nebraska going to a better bowl game than the Big 12 North winner.
by Mark Kieffer on Nov 20, 2009 7:37 AM CST up reply actions

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